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Post by Six on Dec 7, 2013 20:05:17 GMT -5
I know, but I didn't want to take it out because I said I'd give all the responses. Sigh. Oh well.
Apart from a few things, from what I can tell there isn't a lot here that we didn't already know. Most things people have been saying for years now. What's there that we didn't know before now?
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Post by Cel on Dec 7, 2013 20:29:34 GMT -5
Spunks is right, Az. You only did what you said you would do. It's not your fault that someone took the anonymous factor to an immature level. I'm glad you made the survey ... Now. To me, it was nice to see our community consider each other as family. I have felt that way for 4 plus years. It was nice to see that I wasn't the only one who felt that way. Anyway, I'm not going to get all sappy and whatnot because everyone knows I'm a hard-ass, who never .... shows ...  weakness ... But ... Good job, Stells.  We appreciate your effort. Damn allergies. Yeah. Allergies.  |
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 8, 2013 0:58:31 GMT -5
I know, but I didn't want to take it out because I said I'd give all the responses. Sigh. Oh well. Apart from a few things, from what I can tell there isn't a lot here that we didn't already know. Most things people have been saying for years now. What's there that we didn't know before now? Exactly. I was impressed by the number of people who said they had interest in it, but even with that out there I havent seen much effort from either side to bridge any gaps since the idea was brought to both communities. And I cant and wont say that with out it also applying to myself. I think that says way more than the survey does. Obviously some members do hop around to make sure they visit all their friends. That's what makes them good friends. But Im not so sure that is enough for either community to comprise what they have become and done over the last few years. Or who they are and what they want to be. idk I saw nothing conclusive. In fact, I think Ive seen enough to know why this hasnt happened already. |
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Post by porky on Dec 8, 2013 14:28:25 GMT -5
LMAO!! Mmmm the smell of dirty feet, it beats the smell of a fat mans betty swollocks.  |
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Post by Cel on Dec 8, 2013 16:54:19 GMT -5
Try not to let it bother you, porky. Some people are born assholes. Hey here's an idea ... If you don't like either place, how about say " I don't like either place.." But nooooo. There has to be an ass in every bunch.  |
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Post by porky on Dec 8, 2013 16:58:06 GMT -5
No worries Cel. It doesn't bother me. I find it quite amusing really.
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Post by Six on Dec 8, 2013 20:29:53 GMT -5
I know, but I didn't want to take it out because I said I'd give all the responses. Sigh. Oh well. Apart from a few things, from what I can tell there isn't a lot here that we didn't already know. Most things people have been saying for years now. What's there that we didn't know before now? Exactly. I was impressed by the number of people who said they had interest in it, but even with that out there I havent seen much effort from either side to bridge any gaps since the idea was brought to both communities. And I cant and wont say that with out it also applying to myself. I think that says way more than the survey does. Obviously some members do hop around to make sure they visit all their friends. That's what makes them good friends. But Im not so sure that is enough for either community to comprise what they have become and done over the last few years. Or who they are and what they want to be. idk I saw nothing conclusive. In fact, I think Ive seen enough to know why this hasnt happened already. In all honesty, I think the reason that nothing has happened is because the people who want it to happen can't do anything. They can say things all they want, but the SN is Six's site and OGOB is JB's site. If people want a merge to happen, either you two can try work something out or people decide they go and make what they want because it's not being offered. |
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 8, 2013 23:56:30 GMT -5
Exactly. I was impressed by the number of people who said they had interest in it, but even with that out there I havent seen much effort from either side to bridge any gaps since the idea was brought to both communities. And I cant and wont say that with out it also applying to myself. I think that says way more than the survey does. Obviously some members do hop around to make sure they visit all their friends. That's what makes them good friends. But Im not so sure that is enough for either community to comprise what they have become and done over the last few years. Or who they are and what they want to be. idk I saw nothing conclusive. In fact, I think Ive seen enough to know why this hasnt happened already. In all honesty, I think the reason that nothing has happened is because the people who want it to happen can't do anything. They can say things all they want, but the SN is Six's site and OGOB is JB's site. If people want a merge to happen, either you two can try work something out or people decide they go and make what they want because it's not being offered. Well, I can see why people could and may think that but anyone close enough to me knows that I see that as a cop out. I mean really. Thats what it is. No one has ever been shackled to either place. People have come and gone freely from both places for years now. If they wanted they can still do that. Or they can get together and go start their own thing. Or individually go find another thing that better suits them and invest their time there. Some have already done that. Or.....OR make a conscious effort to take action themselves and build the bridges over the gaps to work a merge as community should. Because they want to. Not because a sites "owner" told them to or gave the okay. I have a billion and one reasons I started this community. At the base of it all came a sickening feeling knowing that no matter what I did for a clan or a community that ultimately my fate was still in the hands of another person. A leader. A "site owner". Im not going to do that to anyone else myself. If they wanted a merge, this would have come up long before the idea was a scrap of wood to hang onto as ships look to be going down. After this much more time to think about it, I personally do not want to merge my work, and my ideas, and the history of the Sixth Nation, all my friends who spent time in it, and the work they did with their own hands in an attempt to patch a leak. Whether they still visit here or not....This is The 6th Nation. And it will stand as that. Everyone has to make their own decisions. Im not going to make them for anyone. I dont think JB is going to do that either. But I made mine. 4 years ago. And Im sticking to it. It has nothing to do with past fall outs. It really doesn't. It doesn't have anything to do with the people at OGOB. I knew several of them. They really are a fun group of people and the site is nice and easy to use. It isn't that either. Its about honoring everything that has happened in our walls behind this post. Good times. Bad times. High and lows. Its about finishing what I started. Its DOING something. If everyone just waits for someone else to do something.....thats all they will ever do. Is wait. Everyone has free will. Its not mine tamper with. |
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Post by Six on Dec 10, 2013 1:05:21 GMT -5
So let me understand this correctly. You decided to resurrect a four-month-old thread, saying the idea of a merge is "a good one" and that you wanted to talk to JB. You wonder why people started getting excited (getting one of the site starters is half the battle, right?), yet encourage further discussion on the idea. There is a general consensus that anything that would happen would have to be agreed upon by both communities and that both communities have flaws that would have to be addressed before anything would likely happen. There's enough interest from enough people at one time that I decide to make up a survey that lets people give their thoughts and provide a bunch of information in a summarized form, which shows that while there are people who are not sure about the idea, no one is against the idea and they are at least willing to look into the idea further. But now you're no longer interested in the idea. |
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Post by Liamcifer on Dec 10, 2013 7:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 10, 2013 8:28:57 GMT -5
Thats pretty one sided Az. I was here the very next day expressing in our own Admin and Mod chat thread that I was already turned off by the idea where I also stated that no matter what happened in it we continue to work here for here. I have posted a general question about a return to the old site. I have said in this very thread as the survey was ongoing that I had no interest in it. Was it something I felt the need to explore? Yes. But you yourself have it written in this OP that the idea was just that, and things were "In talks".
I dont want you to feel your time was wasted. More info can be taken from a poll and survey than just the numbers and I myself took a lot from it. But what I see there is 6 more people saying they were interested than those who said they didnt know. That's hardly a majority. And it stands to reason those six people are people from THIS community. The one we are actively working to progress and build. Because they are the ones who have no involvement with my res, OGOB, or anything other than THIS. Why should they be forced into something like that just because 6 more people said they had interest. Surveys are not as All telling as one might think.
Adding to that, just because an idea is supported, doesn't necessarily make it the right choice.
I have no idea why we should merge what we have here with another community solely for 5 more users, one of which is very clearly a troll?
If those from both sides who wish to see such a merge want one, they will get together and plan out their own thing.
I have my own plans for here. I really cant make things any more clear.
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Post by hoos on Dec 10, 2013 16:07:49 GMT -5
I feel compelled to chime in. I haven’t been around for a long time but I still lurk every so often. Married life has kept me busy!
I think what is happening on this board and many like it is the norm nowadays. It’s always been blockbuster online games that grow a community. We are far removed from RFOM and MyRes. However, nobody would have been on their boards if the game wasn’t so fun.
Once that all died then we had a bunch of boards splinter off. They were all successful because RFOM had grown the communities that splintered off. They stayed successful because COD became the blockbuster game. The board was full of posts, videos, help sections and people played the game together.
Those days are over for now. There is no blockbuster online game that is helping to grow a community by bringing people together and bringing in new blood. COD is but a ghost of itself. You know you liked that!
I don’t think merging boards, new boards, or anything along those lines will do anything but give a short-term boost to the site. That is not to say don’t do those things but if the desired result is to have a thriving community then I believe those actions will not accomplish the goal.
What every site like this needs is a blockbuster online game. I don’t know where that comes from right now. Maybe Destiny? You get that game, you get a growing community.
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 11, 2013 7:58:38 GMT -5
First, its good to see you come out of the shadows for a bit Hoos. Its always good to see you.
The points are valid, but I still have hope. I can remember a time in 6th history where there were at least 3 games that kept the community active. Call of Duty was one of those titles yeas. But so was Uncharted 2 and even then there was still a bit of Resitance players as well. R2 was hardly a blockbuster title. But it was from there a majority of this site was built.
So yeah. The right game or games IS important. But offering the time and place to play them is even more so. At least, when talking about maintaining activity levels on a forum. We did our best here with things like Aftermath Monday. The Halloween event. The Uncharted2 "workshops" where experienced players aided newer players. The 6th Nation Civil War. Activity breeds interest and activity. Its a case I think of just going back to what worked in the first place. Thats the direction I plan to go anyhow. We arent in a position here any longer where we can rest with most of the work behind us. Its right back to stomping pub lobbies. Spamming other forums. Promoting and advertising.
Its just time to do a little work again.
We did it once. We can do it again. But only if people want it bad enough. Only if they are willing to go out and DO all those things. And if that cant be found here on site, well, we go out and find the people who would and could.
The games will always come and go. The groups and clans will do the same. This place is meant to stand through ALL that. Thats really the main force behind the decision to not go through with this merge. No matter what has been said or don over the last several years, this place will always be open to the people who once used it.
We'll leave the light on for you.
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Dec 11, 2013 14:44:02 GMT -5
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 13, 2013 10:11:02 GMT -5
I couldnt remember the dudes name. I was going to put the whole line in there.
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