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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 2, 2013 14:18:59 GMT -5
Anyone? By that I mean Forumotion. Lets face it. Its where 98% of all our content is. We can have our 18 plus back. If the tourney brackets and themes are all we are here for, I think we are better off going where we started. We can always link to tourney brackets that are here.
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Post by RHYN0X on Dec 2, 2013 14:49:56 GMT -5
I know this is vague statement but, I want what is bets for SN. If a move back will drive registration and participation, then I am all for it. I've used both, and see the benefits to both, and will go where ever SN goes. I wish I had a more decisive reply for you, but at this time, I do not.
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Post by porky on Dec 2, 2013 15:06:53 GMT -5
"Hooome. Home on the range, where the deer and the antelope plaaaay"........... I think if we did move back, it could do with a lil clean up in places.
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Post by Cel on Dec 2, 2013 15:47:39 GMT -5
Home!
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Post by porky on Dec 2, 2013 16:01:04 GMT -5
lmao sowwwyyyy, couldn't resist that one Cel.
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Post by Cel on Dec 2, 2013 16:14:50 GMT -5
I freaking LOVE E.T.
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Dec 3, 2013 4:02:23 GMT -5
I'm against it. It has exactly one feature I miss, which is a quick and easy Posts Since Last Visit button. Other than that, I do not miss it one bit. It really doesn't matter that most of our content is there because it's still perfectly accessible for anyone who happens to want to read it, which I doubt anyone is doing (or would do) with any frequency. Forumotion sucks, and going back for nostalgia's sake isn't helping anything. We'll just get right back into the same do-nothing rut. No thank you.
Now, is this place better overall? I think so, but I will agree there's plenty of room for improvement. With talk of a merger on the (somewhat) distant horizon, if anything now is the time to check out every forum type we can so that we don't end up not liking whatever we end up with. By all means, do what makes you happy, but make sure that what makes you happy is also what you need. And for Lod's sake, don't go diving under the old security blanket. It's worn, full of holes, and too small. If we want to grow we have to start by outgrowing that.
So, get out there. Everyone should hit every type of forum they have time to visit. A specific game's forums, a general gaming forum, a car forum, fly fishing, toast, or triskaidekaphobia. Doesn't mater what kind of forum it is. Pick a couple and get to know them. No recruiting, no advertising (What would be the point if we plan to move in a while?), just get a feel for each place. Then come back and talk about it here. What you liked and what you didn't. What was new to you? Doing this moves us forward and prepares us for the future. That's what I think we need, and it's something forumotion could never do for us.
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Post by wadey on Dec 3, 2013 8:06:48 GMT -5
I'm with monkey here I don't know all the tech stuff but I feel we need to stay here and build. I just looked and in the last 24hours we have had 8 members and 240 guests at thus place that seems a lot to me !! Now the question is how to get them to hang around?
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 3, 2013 8:30:26 GMT -5
I wouldnt rely on those numbers tbh. Im sure we show up in all the Pro Boards forums as a link just as I see tons off off site links in our own. Bored people browse. But I doubt any of those 200 ended up here with the intent on being here, or even staying here. Another thing to consider is that every time one of us sits on this index with out logging in...it counts as a Guest.
I dont see the old site as a security blanket. Imo its better software and I would much rather use it. Not just from the Admin panel, but the post editor on this forum just blows eggs out shells imo. I personally just dont like this place. The old site....It has all our stuff. It looks full and used and not empty. IDK. I cant image what this place has that we need. It has nothing. Half the plug ins dont work. We lost a few members because they would have rather stayed there or had an easier time logging in and browsing there.
Im seriously missing what is so great about pro boards. We are going to have to rebuild no matter where we are and I have plans for that already.
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Dec 3, 2013 11:37:31 GMT -5
I don't believe we lost anyone because of the move. Rather, the move was just an opportunity for people who were already disinterested with our lack of content to not bother coming along. And moving again now with nothing to offer will just do the same. Even if it "looks full and used" it still won't be. Only rose-colored glasses will make it look otherwise.
Proboards isn't that great, I agree. But forumotion is definitely no better.
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 4, 2013 20:34:15 GMT -5
I dont fully agree with that. Even if it was a crappy version, it had its own mobile app. There are a few who used it for easier browsing. They dont come here because they cant view it as easily.
But whether we stay here or not, we need to find a way to make the site more accessible to mobile users.
I was under the belief that we came here knowing it might not be permanent though. FM sucks too, no doubt. But at least we know how it sucks and how to use it.
I guess a poll may be in order. I will add one now
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Dec 5, 2013 1:05:18 GMT -5
I agree that it shouldn't be permanent. That's why I'm encouraging others to go out and try every forum they can to see what they like. When we find something promising we can give it a try. Until then, moving from broken to broken is just pointless, isn't it?
Even if mobile users did come back (and it can't have been that many people to begin with) they'd be coming back to what is still a mostly empty forum. I can only think they'd come back, see that they weren't really missing much, and go right out again. Until we can offer something good we can't hope to attract anyone. I'm suggesting that the first step is to find better forum software, and that everyone still here needs to help with it.
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Post by wadey on Dec 5, 2013 2:28:25 GMT -5
Realy a mobile app?? I use my phone most of the time and I never new we had an app!? Pretty sure at one point I ask if one could be made but got told no? And as a phone browser I can use both forums as gods as each other!
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Post by RRwatch on Dec 5, 2013 11:05:18 GMT -5
The old fart say lets see where this merger on the somewhat distant horizon is going and use this time to graze on forum software. If Forummotion is the best and its the easiest then do eet. I have found this place a bit buggy at times to log in and the buttons still seem weird. When I put up a video link it always shows a space saying "this is where your video will be" I still dont know how to do a spoiler link lol. Could we chill a bit? Wait til 2014 to make a decision and go or not go , alone or merged ?
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 6, 2013 7:07:04 GMT -5
Well, idk if I would say FM is the easiest. But its known. Im not so sure there is other free forum software out there though any better than it or where we are now however. There arent a whole lot of options outside buying forum software.
And yes and no wadey. We were not allowed to really make one at the old site. But forumotion had one of its own. For a good long while it was in a beta form and could only be used to browse as a guest. A few months before we packed up and left they had it functional to log in and post etc. To the best of my knowledge they dont have a plug in or something similar here on pro boards. Im not sure for which site you are speaking.
FM wasnt broken Monkey. It just didnt have everything in it we wanted. I wouldnt say here is broken either. One doesnt seem to be any more restrictive than the other. For me, this is a case of having a forum full of topics. A much more solid frame to build on. I mean, we have three years of stuff there. The number of people visiting is something we have to work on regardless. We have forums here with no posts in it what so ever. Thats what I think most browsing would consider empty.
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Dec 6, 2013 11:13:13 GMT -5
Whereas there we have posts people haven't touched in years. It doesn't look any more full, but just like it's staggering along on its last legs. Here at least it looks like something trying to get going rather than something about to collapse.
I will be honest and say that I can't remember all the problems we had with forumotion, but I strongly suspect that's a matter of "the grass is always greener on the other side." It's just been long enough that we've been away, so that our problems there aren't as glaring to us as the ones here.
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Post by nobody on Dec 6, 2013 16:16:42 GMT -5
moving back simply because there is more older posts there is a stupid reason to go back.
I like the features here much better my only complaint is I cant quote someone and put any text before that quote.
dont weigh my opinion too heavily though, Im only hanging in by a thread. I come by every once in a while to see if anyone has posted any replies to the few topics I care about, I see im still last post and I bounce back out for a bit.
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Post by SixHousePull on Dec 8, 2013 1:15:42 GMT -5
That isnt the thought behind it at all nobody. As Ive said some where else This way feels like parading people passed what we are and where we came from. It's not dropping them smack in the middle of it. That, and i dont like this admin panel or its post editor. But thanks for calling them stupid reasons anyhow nobody.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Dec 8, 2013 21:02:22 GMT -5
I really don't think moving back is going to fix what the issues are . Sure it may have had a few fourm features that people liked , but what else did it really have that we don't have here ? When a change comes along it is always easier to go back to the ways that we once knew , something familiar, something known. What would going back help, and what would it damage ? To make progress and make change for the better we as a fourm need to step out of our comfort zones . Its only been a few months since we have been on pro boards and its easy to look back and see what we like about fourmnation, but that doesn't mean we should jump ship again.
As for all of the old info, we do have it archived here so people can go back and look at all the old topics and discussions. If some one really wants to bring a topic over why not just copy and past it here ? I agree with monkey on the fact that just because the old site looks full isn't a good reason to go back . Most topics on there are just fluff now, they may look nice but that's all it is, its just a look.
If every one is really unhappy here i say we look for a better place to go. Look towards the future , don't stumble on the past.
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