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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 7, 2013 18:17:10 GMT -5
Thanks, both of you. Nice to see the multi-quote. Thanks for all your effort and work to both Az and Six  |
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Post by iRideAPalmer on Jul 8, 2013 23:19:23 GMT -5
When I click Edit Post it shows up with the preview not showing where my spoilers are so I can't delete them... And clicking BB Code does not show me the BB Code.... any suggestions?
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Post by SixHousePull on Jul 8, 2013 23:53:26 GMT -5
I see some issue. First, it seems spoilers dont close at all even though the tags are in there somewhere.
I also see what you mean about the bracket tags not showing.
They show briefly when the page loads, but once the editor is fully up they disappear somewhere you cant get to them. Any further edit to the post only spoilers added text.
I tried using the spoiler button in the editor. I also just typed them out as well. The issue is present both ways so idk if its an issue with the plug in code or not at this point.
Ill look into it.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Post by wadey on Jul 9, 2013 6:01:52 GMT -5
ill ask this here.
now we can like posts wont that nullify rep points coz people will like posts and therefore be less inclined
to rep a post.
is there and option that say a post by someone gets 5 likes it would generate a 1 rep point automatically?
if this asked been asked sorry?
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Post by Cel on Jul 9, 2013 10:39:26 GMT -5
I'm kinda there with you Wadey.
I think that people will be less likely to Rep when they just "like" a post.
As it stands now, I'm not a big fan of the "Like" and "thumbs up/Thumbs down" system.
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Post by Six on Jul 9, 2013 12:01:00 GMT -5
ill ask this here. now we can like posts wont that nullify rep points coz people will like posts and therefore be less inclined to rep a post. is there and option that say a post by someone gets 5 likes it would generate a 1 rep point automatically? if this asked been asked sorry? I'm kinda there with you Wadey. I think that people will be less likely to Rep when they just "like" a post. As it stands now, I'm not a big fan of the "Like" and "thumbs up/Thumbs down" system. I explained how the Karma System works in another thread, but since it's not finished yet I'm not sure how many people have read how it works yet. The Karma System (what we're calling Nation Reputation) works by giving or taking away points from a user. You can do this in their posting profile or in full profile. This means that you're not indicating whether or not you like a post, but whether or not you think a user deserves (or doesn't deserve) and Nation Reputation point. When using this system you don't know where exactly you're getting points from, but it means you don't have to make a specifically good/funny/informative/etc post to get a point. You could decide to give them a point for being a poster you want to post around. The Like System allows posters to like other posts (including your own). Other than quoting what you like, it's the only way to show that you like a post, and it will show on that post. You can see how many people like a particular post. The poster doesn't get any benefit from this other than seeing people like his post. Both systems can be turned off, but I have left them both on. There is no reason you can't "Like" a post and then give the poster a Rep point at the same time (unless you have given a point within the last eight hours). One feature that didn't come over with us is the ability to nominate posts, which I think the Like system can help with. If a post gets a sizeable number of likes, we could probably think of something more than just giving Rep points for it. |
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Post by Cel on Jul 9, 2013 14:20:17 GMT -5
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Yeahhh.. I'm aware of each feature (in this case) and what it does.
But what I'm saying is, although the thought is nice, people are less likely to do both.
Okay.. Let me try to put it in a different way because I have a tendency of sucking when explaining things.
Whenever a person reads a post that they like, to show that person and anyone else who reads it, because at 1.0 it was highlighted, that it is a worthy post. Rather it's hilarious, helpful, meaningful or whatever by clicking one button, that person was granted a Reputation point. And the whole point of that system is to a) reward the person and b) gives everyone an intensive to make good posts.
And negative repping is just the same cause in reverse.
And it worked.
Now let's look at this system so far.
Let's use you for an example. I've seen a ton of "Like" heading your posts. I expect that because you have had a ton of worthy posts. From sorting out a problem for a user, creating helpful threads to making funny ones. Yet.... No 2.0 Rep Point as of yet.
Not that people don't think you deserve a few.. More than a few but they think maybe "Liking" a post is suffice.
When really it's not.
And that's why I was saying I wasn't a big fan of it.
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Post by Six on Jul 9, 2013 15:15:35 GMT -5
The thing is that they're two separate systems that aren't linked. Liking posts won't affect a user's Reputation, which means you have to click two things instead of one if you wanted to show you liked a post AND wanted to give a Rep point for it. I'm still trying to figure out if it's a step forward or backwards from 1.0's system.
If we were to turn the Karma System off, people could Like posts, but there would be no Nation Reputation affected since there wouldn't be any NR. If we turn off the Like System, people will receive NR but for the most part they won't know what for. I don't think there's any way to combine them so that Liking a post will automatically give a NR point.
From my personal perspective, this is how I use the systems:
If there is a post that I like, then I hit the Like button. The post doesn't have to be spectacular in any way, but if it's what I think to be a solid one then it'll get the like. If I think a post is quite good and deserves more than just a like, then I'll like it and I'll give a NR.
When there was just the NR back at 1.0, I confess I didn't use it all that much because to earn an NR in my eyes it had to be a really good post in some way. I thought there were lots of good posts, but some just didn't make it to the NR-quality for me.
I realize that how I have done/do things is not the same as how other do them, there or here.
Since there doesn't appear to be a way of linking the two in any way, to make sure that users get recognition for good posts and allow them to earn NR, both systems must be active at the same time. That means there needs to be an incentive to use both systems.
As of now, if you like a post:
- You can just "Like" it
- You can "Like" it and give an NR point, giving the poster an idea of where the NR point came from
- You can also just give an NR point, which could be seen as liking a post anonymously. Again though, the poster still doesn't know for what reason.
You can also give NR points for overall behaviour, possibly making it easier to collect them.
I probably haven't said much yet that we don't already know.
We have lost the Nomination here, which helped the staff pick Loyalists and MVPs. It wasn't used much if at all after it was announced because people likely forgot it was under the "!" button which most people clicked when something was wrong with a post. I personally don't think I'd go looking for a nominate option under a warning icon. What I like about the Like button is that it's not hidden: it's right there and easy to see and you know what it's used for.
One way I can think of right to bring the nominate feature back and make sure users get the recognition they deserve is to use the Like System to help give users more rewards for getting a lot of likes. If you see a post getting five or more likes for example, you can post it in a thread that nominates it for more rewards. Maybe that's trophies, a different kind of reputation, I dunno. Nation Reputation could be something from individual users while a nominated post could earn a reward from the community.
Idk. It's a thought.
My brain hurts, but if you want to give any other ideas feel free to say so. Maybe this ^ explains what I'm thinking better.
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Post by RRwatch on Jul 10, 2013 18:14:42 GMT -5
Any reason I cant access the 18 + thread ? I swear I am older than 18 or 21 if thats the case.
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Post by Cel on Jul 10, 2013 18:18:23 GMT -5
Same here. I've got my license right here. I'm clearly 18. Seriously. What happen. I was just there. |
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Post by Six on Jul 10, 2013 18:20:48 GMT -5
I received a warning from ProBoards about the content of the board, but they weren't more specific than that. I've shown the other staff the message and have moved the boards for the time being until we figure out what's acceptable by their standards and what's not.
I'm not sure what to do about it just now, seeing as only Nation members have registered and you can't see it until you've registered AND been admitted into the group that has permissions to see it.
In all honesty, I smell something. Or I'm paranoid.
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Post by Cel on Jul 10, 2013 18:33:35 GMT -5
 Damn. It must of been my content. If so... Damn I apologize. I really don't think it was all that bad.  So that means someone reported it? Like a member? Nevermind. Even if you could, don't tell me.
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Post by Six on Jul 10, 2013 18:37:25 GMT -5
We have had no reports of any kind since I made this place, and I get messages about everything forum-related.
I'll leave that for you to think about.
But yeah. If you think it might remotely be bad I'd remove it for the moment.
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Post by RRwatch on Jul 10, 2013 20:14:18 GMT -5
I received a warning from ProBoards about the content of the board, but they weren't more specific than that. I've shown the other staff the message and have moved the boards for the time being until we figure out what's acceptable by their standards and what's not. I'm not sure what to do about it just now, seeing as only Nation members have registered and you can't see it until you've registered AND been admitted into the group that has permissions to see it. In all honesty, I smell something. Or I'm paranoid. VERY WEIRD. I looked over the TOS and PROBOARDS covered themselves more than any Forum. It doesn't want kiddie porn or people under 18 exposed to stuff. I think the subjects are pretty harmless. Maybe you should rename the 18 plus to private chat or something innocuous. |
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Post by SixHousePull on Jul 10, 2013 21:57:00 GMT -5
We've sent an email explaining the case, why the boards were created, and how we operate them.
Once we hear something we will definitely pass it along. But Im with you rr.
I dont think they knew it was a restricted set of boards.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 10, 2013 22:02:16 GMT -5
that is kinda weird i know a few people that are part of forums that are strictly 18 and up :/
o well you can only do so much
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Post by Six on Jul 10, 2013 22:08:56 GMT -5
If your birth year is the one on the old site, then you're old enough to see them. You do have to ask to have access to them though; you don't get automatic access if you set your age to over 18.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 10, 2013 22:19:04 GMT -5
i think you may have misunderstood me, i also am very poor at explaining things lol I know a few people ( one is my gf lol) That are on forums strictly 18 and up that are being hosted by pro boards with out any age verification . So I'm not sure why they would have a issue with a forum that needs to be age verified before you can get access . Just throwing in my 2 cents is all even though it doesn't change anything  |
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Post by Six on Jul 10, 2013 22:27:41 GMT -5
So your gf uses forums that say that they want users to be 18 or older that are hosted by ProBoards? Did I read that right?
If that is the case, what's the content of the board? Asking to have older users is one thing, but the discussion topics would be another. If they're not talking about "mature" topics then they're probably being left alone.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 10, 2013 22:33:47 GMT -5
yes you read that right , she isn't home right now i would rather ask her first to post the subject , but they are 18 up discussions , topics
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