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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 21, 2013 20:35:40 GMT -5
While typing the below post, you 2 posted 2 more times.. doh. This is what I was/did write: Looking in to other hosts at the moment as the original one I posted doesn't have the best of reviews... not bad, but not great.
Himachi is definitely an option, with some concerns though. As much as I like free, a paid service is monitored 24/7. If you are running the server, or anyone is, and something happens, but you're away, there's no way to reset/restart, etc. From some reading I've been doing it can be glitchy, and unstable, and isn't as user friendly as it says it is. Again, not out of the question, but these are some basic concerns I'm having. Not to mention, you shouldn't have to babysit a server, use system resources, bandwidth, etc., on your end? Is your ISP unlimited, and what is your speed rating?
I am leaning toward Fragnet now. Award winning, great reviews, and high ratings across multiple sites. It's a bit more expensive, but barely. Minimum server size is 8 slots, and the total cost is ~$10.85 a month. That's unlimited addons, unlimited world size, unlimited useage, and more. Lots of nice tools available as well. More info on the server for Terraria itself can be found here. Note that it also provides a free VOIP server for 10 people. Nice to have for non-steam games, or if the steam VOIP doesn't sound to great (I haven't tried it).
Thoughts?
To add to the additional comments. Yes, we could test the free, and fragnet does provide a world upload. Oh, and I just noticed that Fragnet offers a "clan pay" system, meaning everyone can just chip in  PS - Monkey, if you don't mind me asking... You don't have a bank account??? |
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Jul 21, 2013 23:15:39 GMT -5
Why on earth would I give my money to someone else so that I can use it? I already have it. Also, paying for things in cash has no monthly fees, no nickle and dime charges, no limited business hours or specific ATM use requirements. If something comes up that requires another form of payment, there's always a way to get prepaid cards for as much as I need. And for anyone who has been paying attention the last couple of decades (or anyone like myself who is learning of what happened over that time span), banks are the last place I would put any trust in. Crooked loans, ponzi schemes, engaging in trading that gambles with the money they're supposed to be saving for you, all of which played a large roll in the economic crash. And they can keep people coming back because it's been engrained in us that they are essential. Just look at your surprise on learning I get by without it. I hate to pull from pop culture, but it really does seem to be true. "Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank and he can rob the world." /off topic. There's also this guide that popped up for Terraria on Steam. It still limits us to whatever person is going to host's hours, but it requires no cost or extra programs. Lag will likely happen though. |
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 21, 2013 23:39:30 GMT -5
Ah, gotcha. Was just curious. Thanks for answering As for the guide, I will give it a watch when I have some spare time. |
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Post by nobody on Jul 22, 2013 4:13:33 GMT -5
1 person just need to open a copy of the game and leave their PC running 24/7. then if they want to play they open a 2nd copy of the game and join the server.
thats how we did it last time
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 22, 2013 16:06:51 GMT -5
1 person just need to open a copy of the game and leave their PC running 24/7. then if they want to play they open a 2nd copy of the game and join the server. thats how we did it last time I appreciate your advice and input, however; We are trying to alleviate anyone from having to run a PC 24/7 (I know I won't - hydro is expensive), having their system bogged down, and not use up their bandwidth/cap (if they have one). Not to mention lag. If it crashes, it will just be down if said person isn't around. There is the "I want to do something else" scenario as well. If I want to play League of Legends, I don't want a server with 5 people connected to it running the background. Now, if someone doesn't care about any of this, it would be good for a trial period, but in the end, if there is interest, I do think a rental server is best. |
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Post by nobody on Jul 22, 2013 17:43:49 GMT -5
someone either has it running 24/7, its not always available or we/someone pays for a server. those are the options
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 22, 2013 20:36:17 GMT -5
our we could set up rotating host every few days so its not just one person ( not sure if that is a feasible )
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 22, 2013 20:39:15 GMT -5
our we could set up rotating host every few days so its not just one person ( not sure if that is a feasible ) I'm not sure how the logistics of world "sharing" would work. It would require that worlds get passed around, uploaded to the next server, hmmm... I can look in to it. Could probably need to set up some dummy FTP servers for ease of use, hmmm... |
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Post by nobody on Jul 23, 2013 0:20:08 GMT -5
it would require taking the world data file uploading it and having someone download it and add it to the world folder in there game every time it switched.
best case scenario is if someone has a stable internet connection, and an old computer, that they can just leave on 24/7. Id do it if my old computer wasn't likely to crap out randomly
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 26, 2013 0:02:18 GMT -5
i might have a spare labtop soon so having it runnign 24/7 moght be an option for me , hopefully we can get this working soon i would really like to start this up with every one
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Post by CobaltMonkey on Jul 26, 2013 0:17:10 GMT -5
Don't laptops have a real problem with overheating? I wouldn't want someone's place to catch fire.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 26, 2013 0:20:12 GMT -5
the one that's going to be a spare i have hooked up to an additional fan, so it shouldn't be a problem, by soon though it may be up to 3 weeks . If we cant figure something out by then it wont be be an issue to have it running in the background as the spare
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 26, 2013 7:20:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer Jaded, but from what I've read, unless it's a super lap top, it won't be good for hosting, needs lots of memory and HDD speed/storage for this game.
At the first chance I get, I will set up a paypal account, and sign up for a rental. Use of paypal will allow ease for those who said they can, or want to donate. I will hopefully get this done on Sat/Sun, depending on work, wife, kids, etc.
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 26, 2013 8:46:53 GMT -5
A super labtop it is not  it can barley run most games on low lol o well. let me know when you get your pay pal up I have no problem helping out |
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Post by nobody on Jul 26, 2013 16:17:59 GMT -5
@ryhn0x what have you been reading? what I read (about hosting for terraria in particular). because you just run the server, not the full game, it requires even less than running the game does
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 26, 2013 21:07:49 GMT -5
To run a massive world, and have multiple people connected at once, doing multiple things at the same time, will require some significant resources, most average laptops don't handle that well.
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Post by nobody on Jul 26, 2013 22:16:56 GMT -5
its not a massive world. terraria does not require that much
these specs are taken from the terraria wiki on the page about setting up a server
or to quote a post from someone on the terraria forums
the standard for computers 15 years ago were higher than that.
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Post by SixHousePull on Jul 26, 2013 23:48:02 GMT -5
Well, I can pitch in when ever we are ready to roll. Otherwise if something else is sorted, just let me know when and where to show up and Ill be sure to come by and fall down into a dark hole for everyone.
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Post by RHYN0X on Jul 27, 2013 7:58:11 GMT -5
its not a massive world. terraria does not require that much these specs are taken from the terraria wiki on the page about setting up a server or to quote a post from someone on the terraria forums
the standard for computers 15 years ago were higher than that. I appreciate that, but to ensure almost 100% uptime, and no lag I prefer the rented server avenue. Not to mention that may have been the standard for desktops, but was not the standard for laptops 15 years ago, lol  Heck I remember 15 screens with multiple colours coming out, batteries that could last over an hour, and dial up modems coming out for laptops about 15 years ago, haha. Factor in memory and resource sharing, etc... easier to rent for an optimal experience. That being said, I have rented a server. Currently I'm tweaking, testing, and learning the ins and outs of the console commands, etc. Once I have it set up, I will let you all know the ip/password. Hopefully that should be Sunday or Monday. Please understand that it is not mandatory for anyone to contribute (but anything is appreciated as well, heh); As I mentioned to monkey over Steam last night, I am doing this as I have friends here, I enjoy my time on these boards and with in this community, and I like the game. What better way to show it then to contribute a bit more toward all of the above mentioned - barring in mind that if no one uses it, I may cancel, or financial concerns were ever to arise. It would not bother or upset me in anyway, if I am the sole payee. @six - Appreciate it. As mentioned above contributions are not mandatory, however; for those who would like to, I will share a paypal option once the server is live for all. A word of advice before doing so... chop down a tree, kill some jellies, then fall down the hole! |
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Post by jadedoblivion on Jul 27, 2013 8:30:09 GMT -5
This is a awesome thing you are doing rynox , I will pitch in as much as I can even though you said its not necessary on a side note in pretty excited to start exploring and killing monsters with you guys |
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